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Highlights Of What People think of Farmers Protest in India

I came to Know about all the debate at Think School Youtube Video on the their youtube channel with the title :

Are Farmer demands BASELESS or is the govt exploiting the farmers? : MSP Economic Case Study

 

 

sharing some gist of the debate here to save your time :

 

Again a mediocre analysis! Firstly every economic issue is also a political issue.

If you don't understand that your analysis is wrong. The main point you launder again and again is demand and supply. Which could be solved by proper adminstration of policies. Like a centralised forecasting and localised produce, enabling right incentive at right places. Use MSP as a right tool for rewarding right produce. All the numbers here are based on over production which is an admistrative failure. Then about inflation, what guarantee do we have, that private players won't cartelize and hoard grains.

kdfIn one story Farmers makes profit , in another story Private players makes the profit and in last story Government makes the profit but in every story Middle class makes a loss
Answer to ABove COmment from one another user :-

This is the actual point of concern as always stated agriculture worker is the anndata we never expect it with the business man or politician ,so the resolution should be something that is a win win solution for both the peoples and farmers ,rest should stay out of the conflict


First of all these are not Farmer demands at all! This is an well-planned attack on indian economy! No real farmer would ever wants their country to go down to serve these so-called selfish interests. Three farm laws were introduced to double the farmer income but these punjabi rich farmers and so called goons planned attack in the name of protest and govt. has to take it back due to election, now again these outsourced and foreign funded goons came back with non-sense demands, which could hurt indian economy. The farm laws had provision to make food storages, allowing private players to do direct buy from farmers! it would have been best thing to india's farm sector, but the so-called rich farmers feared people by imaginative consequences and targeted government willfully during election time to over turn the bills. They don't even consider trying it for 6 month or 1 year! why not even try? Can't you protest if those laws are not in interest? but no! propaganda was very clear! in the name of so-called MSP these thugs wants to loot the government bodies. Because no other stats are getting benified from MSP more than so-called punjab and neighbour states, these people forgot that the green revolution was a thing of past! Stop asking for MSP as your right! It is government who run the country, so they would give MSP on crops which are needed! Truth is you are laaziest famers who fully depends on MSP! this is extremely illegal use of MSP system. These rich farmers are so selfish that they doesn't even know how their demands are dangerous for entire country! If government buy all food form them at high price then they will have to sell it to others by including storage cost and interests! On other hand private players are not bounded to buy only from government! they can import or stop doing business at all! Even if they are forced to only buy from government then eventually it would increase the cost of their products for end user which is a common indian! So basically these so-called rich farmers funded by foreign entities are aginst all non-farmers indians. It's shame that even YouTubers are not sharing the real situations because of getting bias label or troll issues.

 
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Here is the Complete Debate on the Farmers Protest in India


Already tamil people are protesting against central govt. Citing farmers issue. These TN people are throughly brainwashed.. They consider farmers and farming as emotion Tney are not relaising that One day farming will be done by robots. Even if no one does farming
Correction: even in punjab msp is not given.. if msp is 2200 it’s bought at around 1600 , 1500..(here is the law needed) This is the reason tha punjab farmers are ahead of everyone…
Thanks to Socialism imported by the Congress
govt can't procure all the crops as again storage space will be the issue
What about the consumers
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If government accept there demand then be ready to pay double the price for all daily grains like aatah,dal etc .
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Price of 1 kg aatah will be around 100 rs .
As a person belongs to a lower class family i can surely say if the price of wheat and rice go over this price then it would be a huge problem in society and lead to hunger epidemics coz farmers are assuming others jobs are beneficial and its somewhat true but they are ignoring the class of society which is even currently struggling for buying food :(
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Farmers or Soros funded Anti Nationals trying to disrupt elections?
it can be the case but there is the problem with farming over which they be exaggerating too
ITZ WOULD EFFECT BJP VERY HARD...
rather it should be people and farmers , should come up something that is a win win for both and parties should stay away from this as if they involve then only they will be getting benefited neither the farmers nor the people
U just explained MSP. What are the other farmer demands?
MSP is the major one and farmers are insisting for that only and the knowledge i have ,i would say MSP is never the solution for this problem rather it just a hand kept on blood running wound and we should not become comfortable with MSP as a solution asit is never one
In one story Farmers makes profit , in another story Private players makes the profit and in last story Government makes the profit but in every story Middle class makes a loss
this is the actual point of concern as always stated agriculture worker is the anndata we never expect it with the business man or politician ,so the resolution should be something that is a win win solution for both the peoples and farmers ,rest should stay out of the conflict
Again a mediocre analysis! Firstly every economic issue is also a political issue. If you don't understand that your analysis is wrong. The main point you launder again and again is demand and supply. Which could be solved by proper adminstration of policies. Like a centralised forecasting and localised produce, enabling right incentive at right places. Use MSP as a right tool for rewarding right produce. All the numbers here are based on over production which is an admistrative failure. Then about inflation, what guarantee do we have, that private players won't cartelize and hoard grains.
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First of all these are not Farmer demands at all! This is an well-planned attack on indian economy! No real farmer would ever wants their country to go down to serve these so-called selfish interests. Three farm laws were introduced to double the farmer income but these punjabi rich farmers and so called goons planned attack in the name of protest and govt. has to take it back due to election, now again these outsourced and foreign funded goons came back with non-sense demands, which could hurt indian economy. The farm laws had provision to make food storages, allowing private players to do direct buy from farmers! it would have been best thing to india's farm sector, but the so-called rich farmers feared people by imaginative consequences and targeted government willfully during election time to over turn the bills. They don't even consider trying it for 6 month or 1 year! why not even try? Can't you protest if those laws are not in interest? but no! propaganda was very clear! in the name of so-called MSP these thugs wants to loot the government bodies. Because no other stats are getting benified from MSP more than so-called punjab and neighbour states, these people forgot that the green revolution was a thing of past! Stop asking for MSP as your right! It is government who run the country, so they would give MSP on crops which are needed! Truth is you are laaziest famers who fully depends on MSP! this is extremely illegal use of MSP system. These rich farmers are so selfish that they doesn't even know how their demands are dangerous for entire country! If government buy all food form them at high price then they will have to sell it to others by including storage cost and interests! On other hand private players are not bounded to buy only from government! they can import or stop doing business at all! Even if they are forced to only buy from government then eventually it would increase the cost of their products for end user which is a common indian! So basically these so-called rich farmers funded by foreign entities are aginst all non-farmers indians. It's shame that even YouTubers are not sharing the real situations because of getting bias label or troll issues.
Are they real farmers?
Think School is always using Narendra Modi's in thumbnail to get views.....sad 😅
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Most of the people didn't see the whole video and started writing comments
How could they seriously 6x of the defense budget ?
If a business doesn't workout for you, you shut it down! No way private players will ever buy from farmers if MSP is guaranteed. Import from russia will more lucrative for them.
a correction, not all farmers from around india have taken part in this illegal activity but from a couple of states alone. if their demands are agreed it will drastically affect the profit margin of farmers from other parts of india
Your thumb nail pic of farmer itself saying yours economics ,politics, never understood his problems at all . The current system terrible for farmers . Plz remove your thumb nail farmer picture
Congress ko bhul ke bhi vote mt dena nhi to deah duba denge😂unhone to MSP dene ka promise bhi kr diya h
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farmers are giving unviable solutions. All you need is a sweet spot for experts, that can benefit both gov and farmer
Finally an Unbiased and neither side inclining analysis on this topic . Really thankful to team Think School and Ganesh
The Government has no business to be in business.
Thank you for the video
first, private companies will never purchase at higher price of msp, instead they will import it from foreign. 2nd, even if government will create monopoly and remove private sector..it will only lead to increased inflated prices for all people in india.
saf saf kaho na MSP nhi haram ki kamai chahiye
MODI ji ke GUARANTEE thaa that his govt will work towards implementing MSP.. So he has to explain these issues and how it impacts the citizens & India.. Why doesn't he do that? OR has he already??
Farmer arguments are so stupid like government should take all food items from them and sell them to private player at higher rates They don't have any idea that big company will start buying their raw material from foreign And middle class families will only suffer from it.
Rahul Khan Gandhi is opportunistic Madethokd For sake of PM seat he can promise anything like his lying forefathers Beware Hindustan We need Modified Bharat only 💪🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Bro don't vote for Chai wala chapri so India can really grow
Just a question: if the msp is implemented and force private players to buy at fixed price or above wouldn't that affect the normal citizens as well? As they will now sell for even higher price to get the profit out of it.
Its not the first time i saw you spreading lies , the 40 lakh crore is not the total loss govt have to procure , after selling them even for 20% less prices and even the loss is only for 7-8 lakh crore, check your facts, and its baseles to calculate it with defense budget, at in the country of 60% of farmers , it must be the major priority, USA , russia, Europe with very less farmers give a lot more msp and also puts tarrifs on import of grains in thier country. it’s shameful to see you being bias and not talking facts. Its always seems good from one side. unsubscribed.
Clear line is, govt doesn't pay money from its own pocket. It's taxpayer money. You have to be accountable. Choos choos k middle class ko bhikari banado.
You missed out on the very important fact that if MSP is higher than the procurement price (price+freight+duties & taxes) from foreign countries, private players would neither buy from our farmers, nor from the govt. They'll simply import. As a result, the govt will have even more surplus and our country (not the govt, govt will change sooner or later) would incur much bigger losses than now. Consequently, we'll have to get higher loans from outside and then higher interest payments. This single demand (if fulfilled) will virtually kill our economy in not a very long run.
Are any other major countries implementing this type of system?
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The amount 10 lakh crores is when all of the crop is sold to government, that wont be the case right? so please don’t call yourself unbiased and please show the right facts! Atleast be honest to yourself bro.
What does its means political drama might possible it not evonomic viable but so why pm modi says we will guarantee msp . Any mf these starting you tube and think they are nobel laureate
I dont know why but your videos are congress tilted
So helpful.. Thank you🙏.. Can you also please do a video on FMR🙏
3:30 video starts from here. thank me later
At this point, it just seems INC will do ANYTHING to get back in power....... Do they really have the best interests our our country? Instead to finding a real solution based on compromise and openness, they are playing politics over this..... Indian democracy is really flawed
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I have 3 designs for farmers it's helps both formers and country.
@thinkschool All government schemes are for name sake, like there are subsidy's for farmers to build their own storage facilities. But these funds or proposals are rejected just because they are not according to government rules, even small changes are not allowed. I mean if government really want to help then there should be some relaxation in these rules , eventually the aim is storage so why these rules and unneccesary costly infrastructures which are not affordable for farmers. They can build their own storage capacities according to their space and budget but these are rejected when applied for subsidy. And even if everything is according to terms and conditions very few farmers like 2 or 5 are selected for subsidy from entire village. so i want to say that if someone is willing to invest and make these small storage capacities then why they are not supported by government. This issue also should be addressed , government schemes for farmers are also for name sake very few are implemented and on these only government is campaigning and advertising themselves!!!!! #thinkschool
All government schemes are for name sake, like there are subsidy's for farmers to build their own storage facilities. But these funds or proposals are rejected just because they are not according to government rules, even small changes are not allowed. I mean if government really want to help then there should be some relaxation in these rules , eventually the aim is storage so why these rules and unneccesary costly infrastructures which are not affordable for farmers. They can build their own storage capacities according to their space and budget but these are rejected when applied for subsidy. And even if everything is according to terms and conditions very few farmers like 2 or 5 are selected for subsidy from entire village. so i want to say that if someone is willing to invest and make these small storage capacities then why they are not supported by government. This issue also should be addressed , government schemes for farmers are also for name sake very few are implemented and on these only government is campaigning and advertising themselves!!!!!
Big companies take away oil production and milk production from formers
Stop supporting BJP mere bhai
Hey bro 👋 Make a video on VRL industry and his strategies, business model THANK YOU 😊
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I think when you said MSP expenditure to be 80% of the entire budget, you actually meant 80% of the total government expenditure mentioned in the budget. Please see to this.
I wonder why our govt bans export of wheat during russia ukraine war, if granaries are overflowing
I am from framers family. The demand r baseless.
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Farmers already getting subsidies electricity, water, seeds, pesticides, even loan waiver from time to time. Lets ends all the subsidized, make a contract between farmers and government where government ask what to grow, government would pay msp at price decided. Every farmer would file itr like every indian does, any farmer who is earning more than 10lakhs would be taxed as per Indian Tax Laws.
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Like the government already has data on soil and weather conditions, market demand, they can see the demand can create supply accordingly. Also they can make sure farmers produce the right kind of products for that soil and climate, rather than growing water rich crops like rice, sugarcane etc.
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How much is bjp paying you for making these videos including the last 3-4 videos you have made which fully glorify bjp. That too when election are near. You think people will not notice and you will just do there brain wash to vote bjp....
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Maybe farmers are not able to upgrade their range rover to new g wagon so protesting. Only farmers of Punjab to be specific. Mostly khalistanis in the protest to be more specific 😂. Punjab is a good state and the people are nice but these khalistanis are damaging its reputation.
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MSP is a bad idea।
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I find your last counter argument flawed, if the market demand is 200 per kg, then who would the government sell to for 400? Also, if the price of food the government sells is higher, then private players will simply buy from foreign nations.
Think School
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Thats exactly what the govt argues. But the farmers argue that the govt can become a monopoly and then increase prices
 @ThinkSchool  Oh sorry, i dont think i understood - even if the government becomes a monopoly, China alone produces more rice than India. Not to mention other countries like Indonesia and Bangladesh would be able to offer competitive rates to private buyers. Im sorry if im missing something that may seem very obvious, not very good with economics.
These are not farmers
Arey bhai tumne ye tak nhi bataya ki govt aur pvt khud bahar se kharid rhe h
The mainstream media in south india are not covering this protest.?y
1. Bro u said on the government side they are telling they procurred at x price and there is no demand in market its a loss for them but also consider high demand time they are going to benefit highly. 2. If variable c2 is not considered what will happen to people who doesn’t own the land but renting to someone and cropping how their rent is calculated? 3. It is ok to tax the farmers also with the normal citizen tax slabs if they really make that much money because i doubt they are barely making any money. They situation between north and south is different, in south I haven’t seen any farmer as a wealthy person or earning in lakhs per month. They are just earning thousands per month. 4. If the c2 variable is not included then mostly farmers will think instead of even farming they will just sell their land and put in FD they will get good money. 5. In this world we are only crying to give money to only farmers not to any other industries, We will cry to pay 30/kg to rice but happy to pay 500 per meal in kfc or any fancy restaurant ( here both have thier labours, infrastructure, consumables etc) We will cry to pay 40/kg for sugar we are happy to pay 2-3L for a single bike and we are proud of it. Inflation can happen in all other fields like home appliances, automobile, rent, petrol, electricity etc. we will just keep quiet and pay for those. But we are against the price rise of farming items, if it is not profitable how come the farmers will get the motivation to farm again? The demand in the market fluctuates but farmers expense will be same Government can afford the market fluctuations but how come farmer can afford by selling at an average price in both market conditions But farmers cannot average their price some will get high rate some will be very low rate which makes unfair Instead government can regularise this. These are my questions and opinions this i am telling based on my experience of visualisation farmers situation
Farmers only from Punjab and haryana.... Which is already a very rich farmer .
Another BJP it cell members
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Is is ok if these farmers don’t grow for a year and sit on the street. Then their brains will start thinking straight. Sometimes democracy is a curse and this is an example of this. Utter stupidity. If the government gives in this time, everyone will come to streets every single time they need something approved. That’s when democracy does not make sense. So it is ok if these farmers sit on the street for one year and then decide what they want to do in life.
I am also from agro background but there is no protest
6:09 - out of 23 MSP crops, Copra has been repeated twice.
More study or video on present procurement prices quantity and supply chain like imports and exports qty and price could have thrown more light on this topic...
Under-researched video.
Once india starts buying from international market the price will go up in the international market beacuse the demand in India is enormous. Remember 2022 2023 russia ukraine war when India has to put the ban on wheat & rice export on traders beacuse the priceses where higher in the international market & traders want to buy from cheaper indian market & sell it internationally. Why did the government ban the export of wheat & rice? Similar analogy is for Indian fighter jets. Back in 60s, 70s & 80s, India thought that it is cheaper to buy foreign fighter planes instead of developing them in house & India is still paying the price for not having their own fighter planes. Of course india can buy them from international market. Cutting your own hand & depending on international market is the worst thing india can do. The short term gains the people think of will cost dearly in the long run. Those who think the world can feed 1.3 billon people are living in fools paradise. Moreover, in north america their is zeo tax on tracters, farm equipment & seeding equipment etc. So stop blaming the indian farmers for not paying tax & they are not getting special advantage compare to north american farmers.
Adding opportunity cost not making sense, because if they are getting fd and rent then why growing crop ? Rent the land then but to whom 😂
Introducing x in the cost factor doesn't seem to add up. I mean if a farmer wants to avoid the opportunity cost he'd have to not use the land for farming. It's either or situation. You can't have both. Your either use the land to farm or rent it out and someone else uses it. This is like asking the Government to pay for everything plus a higher MSP.
This all things how we can explain to RGhandi ji when the pravite ppl get import from other countries less then our price then what abt indian market sir
Waiting eagerly for the video on black paper released by congress
Great analysis and this illigal demand from so called farmers are totally baseless and nonsense 😡 only because of loksabha election is coming this political propaganda is started by so called secular parties
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As a BJP voter, I hate modi for not being a hindu rastravadi tanashah
India is suffering from too much democracy
I have seen many videos on this topic but unarguably this is the BEST VIDEO I came across .
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Ye kisan msp k naam p apni hi country k login mai batwara kar rhe hain. DISGUSTING
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The protests are just for convenience of opposition to fuel hatred on the ruling party. These so called large land owners are not famers. They get funded by khalistan supporters.

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